Where was the holy trinity when god created everything?

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in the Bible you know how at the beginning it says "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth?" well I was just thinking if God was creating everything and the Holy Trinity consists of three:Father,Son,and Holy Spirit then where were Jesus...

and the Holy Spirit when God was creating everything?

Answered by amblessed on Dec 02, 2007, 10:52PM
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God always consists of 3 - Father, son, and Holy Ghost or Spirit - Jesus took on the physical to become the 'Son of Man' and was still the 'Son of God' at the same time - the 3 were and always will make up the One (God) - so the 3 were there at creation - this is my understanding, I'm no expert - remember He tells us 'My ways are not your ways', 'My thoughts are not your thoughts' - He also tells us, He knew our name before we were ever formed in the womb - many things will become clearer when we get to Heaven...Hope this helps, here's an excellent Christmas Video if you'd like to enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyR0lwO-nXc&feature=related
Merry Christmas !!

Answered by funadvice on Dec 03, 2007, 10:41AM
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In the first chapters of Genesis God's name is written as plural in the Hebrew. So he refers to himself as 'we' and 'us' and the Bible refers to him as God(s). This is seen to refer to the fact that the whole of the Trinity was there, working together on the creation.

Also:

'The Spirit of God was moving over the water' - there's the Holy Spirit for you.

'Through Him [Jesus] all things were made' - that's a New Testament reference which explains that Jesus was essential to the creation too.

It's pretty amazing, isn't it?

Answered by aarthur001 on Dec 03, 2007, 10:51AM
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The Trinity is the central mystery of the Christian faith. As Christians, we assert that the Trinity always has been, and always will be. It is through the Holy Trinity, that creation came into existence.

The Bible begins "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The Earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters." (Gen. 1:1,2)

In the account of the creation of man, it says, "the Lord... breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living soul." (Gen. 2:7) The Greek word that is used for "Spirit" in the new testament is "pneuma," which is the word for breath.

The Gospel of John also begins with an account of creation. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made... And the word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only-begotten son from the Father." (John 1:1-3,14) I definetly recommend that you read for yourself the full account of the creation in Genesis and the 1st chapter of John.

The Son and the Holy Spirit have been with God the Father from all eternity. All creation is made by the Father, through Christ Jesus his only-begotten Son. The Holy Spirit is the Life-giver, sanctifier, and guardian. They were active in the first creation, but even more activated in the work of salvation, in which man is born again, receiving new life from God

Based mostly on the Gospel of John, the Church adopted the Nicean Creed in the Fourth century which professes the following: "We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God, begotten not made, one in being with the Father, through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation, he came down from heaven... We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; with the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified; He has spoken through the prophets."

I suggest reading the proclaimations of the first recored ecumenical councils, which expounded on the biblical understanding of the Trinity. Also the Cappadocian Fathers wroted extensively about the Trinity, creation, and the process of salvation (Sts. Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory Nazianzus, and Basil the Great) Sts. Augustine, and Athanasius were also very outspoken on matters of the Trinity and the divinity of Christ.

Answered by aarthur001 on Dec 03, 2007, 11:03AM
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After reading your question again, I just realized two other things that might help you.

First, at the ascension, Christ commissions the Apostles to go out into the world "baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit." He does NOT say the "names," but he revealed that God himself exists as one entity. He contains in his very essence three distinct persons, but remains one God.

Second, in the beginning, the first account of creation is portayed as follows. "Then God said, 'let us make man in our image, after our likeness...'" (Gen 1:26) God, who is one, refers to himself in the plural (God is one: see James 2:19).

All this goes into understanding the infinite mystery that is the Trinity.

Answered by irishtomboy on Dec 03, 2007, 02:47PM
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ok thank you guys now I have one more question in the Bible you know how it refers to God in different ways? like the creator,master Lord,etc. well I know that the Bible doesn't have any mistakes but if all of Gods names are capitalized then how come in the different Bibles I've'e read it has 'he' with a lower case h instead of a capital h cause it is referring to God still so how come?

Answered by funadvice on Dec 03, 2007, 07:55PM
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Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Who do you think God was talking to here when he said Us and Our. . . Think about it. They we all in the Beginning.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
This scripture refers to Jesus, It says he was in the beginning.and All things were made by him and with him.

Answered by funadvice on Dec 04, 2007, 01:30AM
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Good question about 'He' and 'he'. I've always just assumed that using a capital letter is a way some people show reverence to God, but that it's not essential - we can show reverence in many other ways too. If other people have more information I'd be interested to know too.

I know that when you get the word LORD capitalised in the Old Testament that it refers to a particular Hebrew name for God - Jehovah/Yahweh, depending on how you read the Hebrew.

When the Old Testament referers to 'God' that's usually a translation of the Hebrew 'Elohim', which is the one I referred to in the email about Genesis.

Other interesting names fo God are 'El Olam', the Everlasting God,

'Jehova-shalom', the LORD is peace,

'Jehova-rapha', the LORD who heals,

'Jehova-jireh', the LORD will provide.

But there are a lot more and they're good to know - they tell us more about the character of our Lord. You could search under 'names of God' on a search engine and come up with a lot more than I've just noted down.

Answered by irishtomboy on Dec 06, 2007, 09:33PM
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thank you

Answered by r0ckstarh0ney on Dec 07, 2007, 02:46PM
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God is the Holy Trinity. they're all in one.

Answered by irishtomboy on Dec 07, 2007, 10:27PM
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thank you

Answered by rayoflight on Dec 30, 2007, 01:59PM
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The question of where is quite relative--from a certain point of view,

The whole of Creation is regarded by many theologians as the manifestation of the Divine Act between the Three Persons of the Trinity.

The Holy Trinity is how God has revealed Himself to us:

1. as the FATHER, the Creator of all things in Heaven and Earth (or the Spiritual and the Material)

2. as the SON, the Word made Flesh, Begotten not made, one with the Father, the Incarnation of God in human history to save man from sin, and to bridge the gap between God and Man who through the sin of Adam was separated from God's grace

3. as the HOLY SPIRIT, the Eternal Love of the Father and the Son, which has no beginning or end. It is through the Holy Spirit that God's will is revealed to mankind, and has guided the prophets and the Church to spread the Gospel---that God has walked with us, forgiven us our sins and has accepted us not only as servants, but as His adopted sons and daughters.

Remember that it is still the same God, only revealed differently to man. That is what the word "Person" meant in ancient times.

So the question of "where was the Holy Trinity" during Creation would be answered as: PRESENT.

From the beginning of the creative process, the Father who created all things was present. The Son who was the Eternal Word of God was present, in one with the Father through the Infinite Love who is the Holy Spirit who was also present.

The Holy Trinity is the manifestation of God to mankind, and thus it may be agrued that since man has not yet existed at the beginning of time, then the Holy Trinity has not existed yet.

But the problem lies on the difference of actuality (the actualness of Time being created) versus man's intellectual concept of creation (which happened way after the creation event).

Since God has revealed Himself to us through these Three Persons, it is through these precepts that we conceptualize God--as the Creator, the Word made Flesh, and the Eternal Love that continues to guide us as God continues to reveal Himself to us.

And it is through the Holy Trinity that we arte able to perceive that Act of Creation, brought upon the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

That means man cannot imagine the state of being (among them the actuality of "whereness" of all things at the very moment of creation, but can only put into words or symbols, as his intellect imagines the concept of "creation" to be.

That is why there is a need for man to be guided to learn of such an event, and that is where revelation comes in.

It is through revelation that man is able to imagine an event despite his absence from the actual event. And that is how God has revealed Himself to us throughout human history--as the Holy Trinity.

I hope this metaphysical discourse gave you a shred of light. Of course, you may end up more confused.

But don't worry.

If God wishes it to be revealed unto you, it will. If He wishes otherwise, then there has to be a reason for it.

That's what revelation is.

Answered by irishtomboy on Jan 01, 2008, 11:37PM
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ok thank you rayoflight that cleared it up for me

Answered by prestondakness on Nov 16, 2008, 06:12PM
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IS THERE A …[ holy three ] or [ a holy # 3 ] [or a holy trio ] or [ a holy tri ]

or [ a holy triangle ] [ a holy threesome, ] …[or a triad, ]
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[a holy trilogy, ] [ or triple, holy # 3 ] [ or holy triplet GODS- EVER EVER ONCE - MENTIONED AS A TRINITY … in Gods word ?

"The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 3th century."
Only one divine Person was present--Jesus Christ the Lord.

. Is there the word holy trinity or even holy three in the Bible? Ever ? Does the Bible say that there are three OR TWO persons in the Godhead?
NO - NOT ONE single PLACE

Does the Bible ever use the word three in reference to God?
Only one verse in the entire Bible does so--
1 John 5:7 speaks of the father, the Word (instead of Son
and the Holy Ghost, and it concludes by saying, These three are 1

ONE PERSON ONE GOD
GOD IS one."

NO - NOT ONE single PLACE

GO YE THEREFORE, AND TEACH ALL NATIONS, BAPTIZING THEM IN THE …...N A M E ... OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST

THE NAME… OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST IS JESUS CHRIST
ONE PERSON ONE GOD

FATHER, IS NOT A NAME
HOLY GHOST IS NOT A NAME
SON IS NOT A NAME

THE BIBLICAL BAPTISM IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST WAS DEMONSTRATED ALL THROUGH THE NEW TESTAMENT
ONE PERSON ONE GOD

AND BACKED UP BY THE OLD TESTAMENT

Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics (1951). II, 384, 389: "The formula used was "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ" or some synonymous phrase; there is no evidence for the use of the trine name…

nterpreter's Dictionary of the Bible (1962), I 351: "The evidence… suggests that baptism in early Christianity was administered, not in the threefold name, but 'in the name of Jesus Christ' or 'in the name of the Lord Jesus.'"

Otto Heick, A History of Christian Thought (1965), I, 53: "At first baptism was administered in the name of Jesus, but gradually in the name of the Triune God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Hasting's Dictionary of the Bible (1898). I, 241: "[One explanation is that] the original form of words was "into the name of Jesus Christ" or 'the Lord Jesus,' Baptism into the name of the Trinity was a later development."

Williston Walker, A History of the Christian Church (1947), page 58: "The trinitarian baptismal formula,,, was displacing the older baptism in the name of Christ."

The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge (1957), I, 435: "The New Testament knows only baptism in the name of Jesus… which still occurs even in the second and third centuries."

Canney's Encyclopedia of Religions (1970), page 53: "Persons were baptized at first 'in the name of Jesus Christ' … or 'in the name of the Lord Jesus'… Afterwards, with the development of the doctrine of the Trinity, they were baptized 'in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.'"

Encyclopedia Biblica (1899), I, 473: "It is natural to conclude that baptism was administered in the earliest times 'in the name of Jesus Christ,' or in that 'of the Lord Jesus.'

WHEN JESUS TOLD PETER Go teach all nations BAPTIZING
them in the , ...NAME... OF the Father and of the Sonand of the Holy Ghost

ONE PERSON ONE GOD

WHAT DID PETER DO ?...???

… WHAT EXAMPLE DID THE BIBLE TELL AND GIVE OF THIS

11 DAYS LATER IN (Acts 2:37) Peter preached a sermon The CROWD “PETER, " What MUST WE DO TO BE SAVED (Acts 2:37)

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be Baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, For the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost
ONE PERSON ONE GOD Acts 2:38

GA 3:27... For as many of you as have been BAPTIZED into Christ have put on Christ

1CO 1:13... Is Christ divided? ..was Paul crucified for you? or were ye BAPTIZED in the name of Paul?
ONE PERSON ONE GOD

RO 6:3... Know ye not, that so many of us as were BAPTIZED into Jesus Christ were BAPTIZED into his death?
ONE PERSON ONE GOD

AC 19:5 ... When they heard this, they were BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord Jesus

ONE PERSON ONE GOD

AC 10:48... And he commanded them to be BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord… Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

AC 8:16... (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were.. BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
ONE PERSON ONE GOD

AC 8:12... But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were BAPTIZED, both men and women. [NO BABIES ]
ONE PERSON ONE GOD

Acts 19:3-5 ..."He, unto HOW were ye baptized? And they said, unto Johns baptism. Paul, SAID YOU believe on Christ Jesus. ... When they heard this they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."
ONE PERSON ONE GOD

Ephesians 4:5 "THERE IS One Lord, one faith AND , one baptism."
ONE PERSON ONE GOD

Ephesians 4:5 "THERE IS One Lord, one faith AND , one baptism."

Isaiah 9:6 ... For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
ONE PERSON ONE GOD JESUS CHRIST

you CANT FIND ONE SINGLE PLACE WHERE ANYONE EVER ONCE PERFORMED BAPTISM IN THE TITLES OR MANIFESTATIONS OF THE FATHER, SON AND SPIRIT

The name of Jesus Christ is a declaration of who He is

1. Wonderful
2. Counsellor
3. The mighty God
4. The everlasting Father
5. The Prince of Peace

Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other: For there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

The early Church did not yet use the term "Trinity" and hence did not refer to Christian baptism specifically with that term. New Testament references to baptism in "Jesus' name" (Acts 2:38; Acts 19:5)

TRINITY IS A CATHOLIC .../,,...ROMAN ~TIC INVENTION ...ROME INTRODUCED...THIS AND CHANGED BAPTISM FROM THE BIBLICAL APOSTOLIC...ORIGIONAL BAPTISM...FROM { THE BIBLE COMMANDMENT & DEMONMSTRATION OF BAPTIZING... in the name of the Lord Jesus.) TO USING THE TITLES FATHER & SON & SPIRIT

BAPTISE IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND...OF THE SON...AND ...OF THE HOLY SPIRIT...

THAT NAME IS JESUS CHRIST...YOU ARE BAPTISED IN CATHOLIC INVENTED & PERVERTED BAPTISM...

Jo8:19 THEY SAID to him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father

24JESUS CLEARLY SAID IF ye believe not that I am HIM, ye shall die in your sin 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

~~~24JESUS CLEARLY SAID IF ye believe not that I am HIM, {{{ THE FATHER }}}ye shall die in your sin

Ph2:6 Jesus WAS and the Form /MORPH- Greek] of God, thought it not robbery / PLUNDER- Greek] to be equal with God But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form /MORPH- Greek] of a servant

JESUS IS THE FATHER MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH...JESUS~~~THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE SPIRIT OF GOD...

TRINITY IS A MAN MADE PERVERSION...GOBBLED UP BY ALL OF ROMES...DAUGHTERS / W.H.O.R.E..S/AS REV CH..17 PROPHICIES...

///...STILL PRACTICING HER PAGAN HOLIDAYS, LYING DECEIVING...GREEDINESS...AND LOVE OF LIES...AND REJECTION OF THE BIBLE & APOSTOLIC CHURCH

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