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It's like I said a few weeks ago. Obama will be painted as the chicken sh*t white-flag waver, McCain as the fanatical warmonger. That will go on until November, and probably beyond for whoever is elected.
Obama's plan does not call for a complete withdrawl of US forces from Iraq, nor does it call for an end to fighting terrorism in Central Asia. In fact, Obama was one of the few candidates who had tough words for Pakistan, basically saying he'd be willing to strike at al-Qaeda targets in that country. Not even Bush has gone that far.
I'm also impressed by Obama's stance on veterans affairs. As a veteran myself, I think it's something this country and this administration have neglected far too long.
While this assessment brings some truth. I'll have to disagree with the statement "If Barack Obama is elected President of the United States, I fear our enemies will smell the blood of weakness and rise in retaliation here and abroad" Obama is a very powerful/successful person. I'm sure that he is aware of the consequences that may come, Is he prepared should be the question! He will make a big difference in the USA. People can't obviously think that everything is going to cramble when and if Obama becomes president.
Iraq is already in a bloody secterian war... the only thing that's keeping them apart is walls and money, does the U.S. expect to pay them not to kill each other forever? Also, where do you think the money is going? These sects are all biding their time, taking the money, and stocking up on weapons...
Andyburton:
Obama is not Muslism, as your response insinuates:
"...even if Muslimic or Female presidents are not elected in times of unrest..."
See these threads for *actual* evidence:
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I'll provide the source this time but this is the last - others on here are NEVER asked 'source' - I realize because I'm a Christian and a Conservative (not Republican) there is much bias against and I must jump through extra hoops - that's fine with me because those haters here aren't hard to spot - just read the responses and language used, with impunity - So,To all: if you choose not to trust my information just ignore the question please or look it up yourself and you'll find it - I don't just 'make it up' - Last time: 2nd paragraph: SOURCE: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/SandyRios/2008/05/22/why_im_afraid_of_a_president_barack_obama
QUOTING: Sandy Rios
Not directed at you bimjob - a general statement - hope you'll answer the question, have a good night !!
j-man, Ronald Reagan is definitely a hero of mine - a Great LEADER, a Great PERSON - very much missed !!
I loved the assesment and, if Barock Obomma does get elected which pray to God that he doesn't, our enomies will attack us again if we pull out of Iraq which I don't want!!
Otherwise, its going to be a safe haven for the terrorists and, Obomma is just going to let them attack us again then we'd have another 3 thousand abiding Americans killed right? Anyway Obomma makes me nervous and, I'm afraid that we're going to have another 911 and that won't be a pretty sight. Did you hear about him wanting to meet with the brutal leader of Iran?
Obomma is a flip flopper, and very naive and irresponsible. He doesn't understand the threat that our enamies have against us and, he wants to be friends with them!!?? I mean, come On!! he's a disgrace!!
I'm sorry to be going on, but, he scares me.
Amblessed, I thank you for your response. I have a great deal of respect for you, which is why I asked for sources. Not because I doubt your accurate portrayal of the quote, but to explore the ‘bona fides’ of the source.
Ideologically, we are probably in opposing camps. (I’m blue collar, moderate to liberal, and a (gasp) atheist.) But I enjoy hearing and considering what all reasonable people have to say.
I hope that we will be able to end this non-sense that Iraq has become. I think that Bush/Cheney made a terrible choice when they decided to invade, and decided to do it on the cheap. But we are now in it and exit strategies from the present administration have yet to work. A different administration with different views is going to be needed, I just don’t know if ANYTHING will solve the violence there. Or if anyone will have a solution. But I think that McCain is going to be following in the present administration’s footsteps, and will also flail and fail.
I believe that it’s time for the Democrats to step up. (Yes, I’m a Democrat.)
Sen. Clinton has a great deal of experience, but a lot of baggage due to the almost rabid feelings Republicans have toward her husband. Obama has less experience, but probably can work with both sides of the aisle much more effectively. Who do I prefer? I honestly am not sure.
But I am not fearful of some type of ‘soft on radicals’ approach of any of the candidates.
amblessed: "LOL, not even my words but they obviously 'hit home' with the j-man, LOL !"
I never thought they were your words, but you posted them. I can only assume the intent is to rachet up the fear. It would not be the first time you have done it. Not sure what you mean by hit home. Did you really think I would agree with such ridiculousness.
And Sandy Rios? I see you still havn't got that new TV yet, huh? You are still using the one with the channel stuck on FAUX News.
"j-man, Ronald Reagan is definitely a hero of mine - a Great LEADER, a Great PERSON - very much missed !!"
What a surprise. Reagan was the second worst president we have had. The mental midget currently occupying the oval office holds the title of worst ever. But ronnie set the stage for the likes of duby and di*k.
I don't have enough space on here to describe all of the things reagan did that have led to many of the problems today, but the biggest one was the deregulation of everything. That led to mass consolidation of businesses into huge corporations, which in turn then led to multi-national corporations infiltrating our government. He allowed the gorvernment of the people, for the people, and by the people, to become the government for sale to the highest bidder.
The myth of reagan will not stand the test of time.
amblessed - "I'll provide the source this time but this is the last - others on here are NEVER asked 'source' - I realize because I'm a Christian and a Conservative (not Republican) there is much bias against and I must jump through extra hoops - that's fine with me because those haters here aren't hard to spot - "
oh amblessed, you are correct it IS easy to spot the haters---
two answers from a CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE asking for MY sources...
I guess that as a LIBERAL NON-CHRISTIAN I must also jump through extra hoops...
"amoeba please present the site where you read about Dr Kent Hovind, I would really apprecitate reading it myself, thank you."
http://www.funadvice.com/q/...
and
"Could you post the references that you were quoting?" http://www.funadvice.com/q/...
so, please cut the PITY PARTY where the evil haters pick on the christian conservatives...the street runs both ways.
amblessed: I know that this may be odd coming from an atheist to a Christian but I think there is a lot of wisdom in the Bible and the teachings of Jesus. I'm only singling you out among Christians here because you are always generous with your advice and thoughful in your answers. Years ago I saw lots of people wearing WWJD articles asking What Would Jesus Do?
Think about what the Bible teaches us about Jesus:
Who would Jesus bomb?
What nations would Jesus invade?
Would Jesus cower in fear or walk with courage?
Would Jesus love his enemies? Would he consider talking to enemies a weakness?
Would Jesus be a peacemaker or a warmonger?
Would Jesus cut taxes on the wealthy or try to help the poor?
Flossheal and I have been discussing religion and its effects on politics. While we both agree that Jesus can not be pigeonholed into a political party my reading of the Bible leads me to view Jesus as a bleeding heart liberal rather than an arch conservative. I see parallels between many of today's Christian conservatives and the Pharisees in the Bible who were more interested in following rules than spreading love. I just don't get how so many people read the same Bible as I do and interpret it so differently.
Mine was a personal opinion - nowhere in it did I mention religion - I make no claim to be mistake-free in anything I do - I do my best and pray for His guidance - my opinions are based on what I know to be true, what I have been taught, and my understanding - I think your last sentence contains the answer you seek - 'people' - no two people are alike - I see many, many Christians today with an intense love for people, so much so, that they actually CARE enough to mention to others 'The Good News' rather than play 'I've got a secret', which would be sooo much easier to do - it's a shame Christians are painted with such a broad negative brush but that's the state of the world we live in - again, just doing the best I can - I'll be judged in eternity - it may mean nothing to you but I cannot put into words what it would mean to me I when I see Jesus, and He says "Well done".
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What do you think of this assessment ?
I read this today: If Barack Obama is elected President of the United States, I fear our enemies will smell the blood of weakness and rise in retaliation here and abroad. While Obama makes sweeping promises to end the war in Iraq, he never projects the...
consequences. Radical Islam is waging a holy war against us—and they have no intent on ending their war against the West. Withdrawal will be perceived as surrender and the election of a president sympathetic to their cause will embolden them like nothing else. Iraq will recede into bloody, sectarian retaliatory violence. Iran will take advantage and wield new power in the region. Our military families will have the sacrifice of their loved ones rendered meaningless. And our enemies will come here - What do you think of this assessment ?