What do you think?

Comment for amblessed's profile Asked by trisarahtops 3 months ago, 17 answers.

So there's a quote that goes something like this.

I'd rather live believing in god and die to find out there ISN'T one.
Rather than to live not believing in god and die to find out there IS one.

I THINK that's how the quote goes (Correct me if...

I'm wrong)

So do you think that too? Or are you the opposite?
I'd rather live believing in god.

Answered by cthulhu on Aug 24, 2008, 11:47PM
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That's pretty much Pascal's wager. He said it was logical to believe in God, because if he exists, you have everything to lose or everything to gain, but if he doesn't, all you've lost is some of your time and money.

There are a lot of problems with this, as far as arguments go. The biggest is that in order for it to work, you have to accept that it's at least very likely the Christian god exists. It's not convincing to someone who doesn't already believe.

If I were to say "FedEx me all the money in your wallet and I'll send you a winning lottery ticket. If you don't I'll torture you for twenty years", chances are you won't take me seriously. In that scenario, you wouldn't have much to lose if I were lying, but you'd have a whole lot to gain or lose if I were telling the truth. The only way you'd buy into that Idea would be if you already believed I had a winning lottery ticket and a predilection for torture. It's the same with the wager: It's not convincing unless you already believe in God, Heaven, and Hell.

Another big problem with the argument is that it works just as well for the competition. If it's enough to convince you, how would you decide which god to bet on? There are thousands, so the chances of you guessing correctly are pretty slim.

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Answered by punkyflicscene on Aug 24, 2008, 11:10PM
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id rather live believing as well. because oooh if you dont... then you realize there IS one... smh... your going to be pissed!! gon be you and some dude named abdul just sittin there like... "I cant believe its not butter".

Answered by trisarahtops on Aug 24, 2008, 11:11PM
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lol punky you're too funny.

Answered by holetoledo on Aug 24, 2008, 11:13PM
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I'd rather believe in myself. Believing in God is not enough for me; there's nothing for me to fall back on. When I find myself praying for things, it's not enough.

But hey, I think I'd pick the latter. 'Cause if I die and find out there is a god, that's cool. I like being surprised, especially if it's the good kind.

Answered by curiosity15 on Aug 24, 2008, 11:14PM
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this quote is exactley how I feel.

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Answered by trisarahtops on Aug 25, 2008, 12:11AM
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Cthulhu I love your answers

Answered by arachnid on Aug 25, 2008, 12:26AM
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Further to what cthulhu said, Pascal's wager also omits the possibility that god could reward unbelief, or at least punish it less than belief in the wrong god. In that situation, not believing in any god is the best approach.

Answered by jester_x on Aug 25, 2008, 07:07AM
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if thats the only reason to belivie in God then its not with your heart. wich defeats their purpose

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Answered by shawnie9 on Aug 25, 2008, 09:29AM
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This quote just shows how weak Christians are. It shows that this is a religion based out of fear...like, I wouldn't believe in god, but I'm afraid there really is one, so I guess I will. Seriously people, take off your chains and think!

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Answered by silverwings on Aug 25, 2008, 11:39AM
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AS far as cliches go, that one makes sense, however, there is sooo much more to it, than that.

I sincerely hope that the Spirit of Truth, is seeking you out, because, the bible says that he will lead you into all truth.

The first awakening of the spirit within, is just the beginning, of a whole lifetime of seeking to learn more of the things of God.

It is a truly awesome journey, one that is very rewarding, yet, very challanging... at the same time.

Are you up to taking part in the Journey? I promise, that God has much in store for you, if you are willing to step out in faith.

Answered by toadaly on Aug 25, 2008, 01:05PM
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The universe appears to be rational. Since no gods communicate with us (ancient books of superstition and propaganda are not the same thing as communication from a god), the only reasonable conclusion to draw is that if there are any gods, they do not want us to think irrationally, which is what faith is - irrational and unwarranted belief.

So if there are any gods, and they are concerned about what we believe, then it's proper to conclude they don't want us to believe in them. Are you still better off blindly believing if gods don't want us to believe in them?

Answered by trisarahtops on Aug 25, 2008, 01:30PM
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Shawnie9 I'm not a Christian.
It's a simple question.

Answered by shawnie9 on Aug 25, 2008, 06:45PM
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trisarahtops:
Sorry, my "simple" answer is: No
By Christian I meant believers in god. The only time I have ever heard anyone talk about this the way you do were Christian. What religion are you? I'm eager to know.

Answered by trisarahtops on Aug 25, 2008, 08:39PM
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I really don't have a religion.
I went to a catholic school when I was like four til six but all I remember is watching Veggie tales and lunch.

My parents let me believe whatever I want to believe.
And god is something I believe in.

And all I'm doing is asking everyone else there opinion. Isn't that what this site is basically about?

Answered by funadvice on Aug 26, 2008, 10:36AM
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personally I don't know, I've seen a lot of stuff basically proving that god is all myth, however I would rather believe in god and not see him and all, im like on the verge of wether 2 belive in god or not, " this myth of god, has served us all well" Pope leo the third

Answered by tom97531 on Aug 27, 2008, 12:33AM

You can look at all the "evidence" for or against something, but in the end, you believe what you believe. If you believe the Loch Ness Monster exists or that fairies don't exist, that's all there is. It's not like you can just say, "You know what? I'm going to start believing if fairies now." Someone can hold a gun to my head and tell me I have to believe in fairies if I don't want to die. That won't make me believe in them, but I would consider that person to be a pretty irrational and unjust person to do such a thing to me. That's why I believe that if there is a god and a heaven, you don't have to believe in him to get to heaven. And if you do have to believe in him to get to heaven, then I would consider that god to be a pretty irrational and unjust being as well.

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Answered by nlocnil on Sep 04, 2008, 10:47PM
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No Thanks, I don't like the world view at all, it's a load of crap. Plus is this some version of Pascal's wager? Well that's not very affective, I could care less if god existed or not or about an afterlife.

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