Does god exist and why?

do you think that God does exist. why?

I am a strong believer in Jesus if you look at it this way how does everything fall into place so perfect like we breath from trees and it just all makes sense what you need to do is read the bible and then you may see how everything works mabe you will relise not to question him...what you need to do after you read the bible is pray to have him com in to your heart ...pray...dear Jesus I know I am a sinner I am asking you to enter my heart and rid me of my sins help me to become pure and love you help me to help others love you and know your truth in Jesus's name I pray amen

yes,,, because when you have a relationship with him you know hes there,,

religion just isnt about what group you fall under or what you say you believe

its about actually talk to him like he was another person knowing he cares for you more then any one else ever could you feel him he lets you know hes there =)

if you have any questions just message me god is so interesting and kool you have no idea.

the compelling question over the ages is WHICH GOD.
I am wiccan and I worship nature.

no l=who wants to live life round a book
anyway in heaven you can't skate so I dont want to go thank you very much lolz

dont listen to the person under me no offense but who in there right mind wud worship a plant!!! you cant have a relationship with a leaf,, I dont mean to bash if thats what you believe I just dont get how you cud believe that it makes no sense to me

confusedx0gurl I agree w/ you 110 percent

thedudebrokemyheart... heaven is everything you want it to be its all happiness.

I don't believe in any sort of god or gods. They just don't seem likely to me.

how can you say there is no skating in heaven if you have never bin there I bet there is skating in heaven and guess what theres no pain so if you fall on your butt you wont feel it so =p

FORCES OF NATURE -confusedx0gurl, and besides plants are all a part of the larger picture, how many people do you know have gardens? keep flowers in their houses.
we are getting away from the point, nature IS everything, the sun the moon, the stars- the universe, PLANTS, animals.
it is very arrogant to say that a plant should not be venerated, when it has been scientifically proven that plants respond to voices-music, etc.
everything is tied together in the big picture.
don't get me wrong- I do not worship plants, I respect them and their place in the greater scheme of things.

no, I agree with thedudebrokemyheart. I don't want to live my life around a book that cannot be proved.

lol confusedgurl said it all. haha

baldwinwolf... but who do you think created those plants and the sun and moon?

as far as I am concerned- organized religion has all been stolen from the pagans, and all it amounts to is rewrapped witchcraft.
I do not see any bibles written in early sumerian.

mb789 the bible can be proved and has

NATURE CREATED EVERYTHING, IS EVERYTHING.
PROVE THAT THE CHRISTIAN GOD EXISTS.

the evidence is all around you (nature) but you dont want to listen to me...

DO PRIESTS CAST SPELLS? the lords prayer, blessing houses.
ARE THE FOUR ELEMENTS USED IN CHRISTIANITY? ashes to ashes- EARTH,
incense during church- AIR, candles- FIRE, baptisms- holy water-WATER.
people are all trying to claim the same thing.
whichever name you place on a GOD, or GODS AND GODDESSES, it is all the same thing- just repackaged for different groups of people.

well then what created nature?

it isnt the same thing when you know him,,,

PRIEST do not cast spells they pray the do not use there powers because they are works of god.

ok and there is no such thing as the four parts of elemnts are you going to tell me next that because the cross is made of wood I shud worship the trees?

you think a bunch of trees created us??? I am really interested in what you think

my overlying statement here is -christianity was created from a lot of different religions that were around at the time. christianity was NOT the first religion, the bible has been abridged and had parts of it left out since its inception. paganism has been around since man first looked up at the moon. if christianity was right- they would have been worshiping jehovah, yaweh, whoever.
I do not buy that the christian god is supreme.
so many people have been killed in the name of a religion that is quick to quote ' thou shalt not kill'
you believe in what you choose to, I will not harbor any ill feelings towards you, but when it comes down to it, it is I and my brothers and sisters who are waiting for the christians to wake up.

your are ight it is not the first religion but who changed that??? JESUS!!! in the bible it even states that it wasnt the first religion

just because christianity was around doesnt mean they had to believe it just like you dont...y dont before you critisis and make up your on opinions you give it a shot and ask god to show him self to you he will,, but I think most people are scared and to lazy to try to get to know something bigger then you and I ,,, I feel no pitty or anger I liike to hear other peoples views on the subject matter

all you need to do is look back in history with an open mind- and you will see elements of other religions that were brought into christianity.
do you worship saints?
do you pray for protection from angels?
and call it what you want- spells-prayer, etc. it is the same thing.
the four elements have been around forever- from the dawn of time.
you want me to place a given name on nature- DIANA, is that easier for you accept.
nature simply is everything.
where did I say we were created from trees???
priests DO cast spells
christians DO use the four elements
christians DO pray to more than ONE being.
I have seen it- I have an open mind to be able to identify it at what it truly is.
if you can not see that then you have been duped.

-Spells come from satan
-I do not worship saints only god
-I dont pray for the protection of angels they dont need prayer
-priest pray and ask god and glorify him not pull out a wond and cast spells for with praying its not certain if it will get answered in that instant or not
-christians do use things like holly water and wood and blah blah blah because thats all they had back then
-maybe christians that are not really for god pray to more then one being but I pray to god and jesus allone
-the bible says that there will be many false priest and false testimonys not every christian is true not every christian is pure I've SEEN IT TOO
-do not doubt because or other idiots

and I ask you again how you think all this came to be?? who created the universe and nature and humans and the galxy I dont see any plant in outter space silly

I am not a follower of christ, I have seen christian churches wrecked by tornadoes, burned to the ground. if a church was such a sacred place then why would a christian god ruin the very place his worshipers come to worship him.
I harbor no ill feelings towards anyone- I am but a man who is looking around me at everything wonderful in the world- and living within the laws of nature, being one with the world, with the only limitations being my own sense of morality. I do not need a singular GOD to suppress what it is to be human, I do not need a singular GOD to watch over me- as in a flock of sheep.
I am a hunter, not a docile mindless creature, who is comforted by the knowledge that the SHEPHARD will protect me.
nature is good and bad, it can be harsh- but it can also be rewarding. I live within the bounds of nature- if I don't respect a rattlesnake- the christian god is not going to protect me from being bitten, common sense dictates that if I hear the rattle- go the other way.

no we dont worship saints. we worship God.
and spells and prayers are very different. they are not the same thing
and it doesnt matter if the 'four elements' have been around 'from the dawn of time'
nature is not everything there is much more to life then nature.
preists DO NOT cast spells.
christians DO NOT use the four elements. half of them dont even really know what the heck they are or if they even existed.
christians ONLY pray to ONE being. and that is God.

there are 'false christians' it says it in the bible. thats who you have seen.

I am not a satanist.
satan is a story that was created to scare people into believing- therin lies something evil itself- HAVING TO SCARE PEOPLE TO BELIEVE.
there was a god around the time of christianitys birth-THE HORNED GOD- this god is not inherently EVIL, but that image was stolen, and became the evil SATAN.
you don't need to tell me that people don't worship the VIRGIN MARY
or for that matter CHRIST
or that they don't worship SAINTS
or that people don' t call on ANGELS
suddenly monotheism is looking strangely like WITCHCRAFT.
I HAVE SEEN ALL THIS- SO IT CAN NOT BE DENIED.
LOOK AROUND YOU.

the reasonms these churches burned down is because we have free will or the old saying '$hit happens'
-if you recall in the bible just like your 'nature' there is harsh and peiceful parts' if you know the bible at all you will remember the story were god flooded the world and killed millions of people!!! who did that god did.
-and in the bible god describes us as sheep which are the dumbest animals out there. Just like the shepard god sint there to protect you but more so to guide u...unlike sheep you have a free will to ask for his help or go your own route

if all these christians are false, then christianity is in serious trouble, because it is widespread.
that is my point exactly- how many different versions of THE TRUTH are there?

Church is a place to fellowship with other believers. Believers do worship God in churches... but it's not the building that is sacred. A building is just a bunch of bricks. It has more to do with a relationship with God than it has to do with a building.
There are different denomanations around the world and all of them call themselves 'christians' which is where your view comes from that we worship saints and use the four elements and cast spells.
Casting spells is pagan practice that God condemns.
Christians only pray to one being... which is God.
(You might be confusing catholics with Christians, who pray to Mary)
Some Christians do pray for protection, but this is called Spiritual Warfare, meaning they are asking for protection from evil spirits and satan.
I believe every can agree that there is good and evil and right and wrong since we all have a conscience.

and now I am beginning to see portions of that which was stolen from paganism- the great flood epic.
spell- prayer- it all accomplishes the same thing- casts your wishes and concerns into the cosmos.
you follow christ, I will venerate nature.
because I choose to not follow christ- that makes me evil and bad?
that is a rather arrogant statement, don't you think?

people who call on anything other then god are not christians at least not true christians for you to judge us as a whole is rong...

it doesnt make you evil or bad. it just makes you not saved. lol
im just going to be VERY blunt about this. if your not saved you go to hell
if you are you go to heaven. end of story. I hate to say that but it comes right down to that. its the truth

oh hold up lil one,,,

you can go your whole life being good ,,kind to other,, eat your veggies,, be a good husband and wife,,, just because you dont have god doesnt mean your a bad person any one who tells you that is NOT of god!!!

in fact I think you are probably GREAT PERSON but without excepting god into your heart you will not go to heaven

the problem is that there are way to many denominations, who is the right one, are the lutherans wrong? are the protestants misled? how about the jehovah witnesses, the seventh day adventists? the catholics? the church of christ? I can go on and on- which VERSION OF THE TRUTH IS RIGHT?
HOW CAN THERE BE SO MANY TRUTHS?
EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF A GIVEN DENOMINATION IS EVIL?
that is why I do not believe in, or follow christ, too many people fighting over what the truth is- that they have simply missed it entirely.

In order to know that there is no God you would have to have infinite knowledge. If you were to have infinite knowledge you would have to be God. It's kind of hard to be God and not believe in God at the same time.

Christianity has become to be a messed up thing, so much as to what others think of christianity and what christians believe. There are so many teachings and way to interpret the Bible. There is a difference between intrepreting, blowing things out of proportion, and changing what the Bible says.

Nonbelievers have a hard time grasping the concept of 'false prophets' because they don't have a personal relationship with God to know that.

Yes, I do because of a life-changing personal experience - this is what I know to be true: God being pure cannot even look upon sin - man, even in his very best state is a sinner - on judgement day, either: your sins are covered by the blood-shed sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (salvation and only salvation - being a nice person isn't good enough - even at our very best, we are but filthy rags), and remembered no more or they are not (your sins are not covered) - where God's great love comes into play is, He provided a WAY (Jesus) for us not to perish and live in Heaven with Him (He certainly didn't have to do this but did because He loved us so) - if you read carefully John 3:16, this is exactly what it says - each person will either accept or reject, you must decide for yourself and yes, it's so important, it has eternal consequences - He Loves you and wants you to accept God's free gift to man - Jesus...hope this helps !!

I agree with the denominations things.. there are a lot and there is no way of knowing which one is right or wrong. It is how you interpret the bible. But like I said... there is a difference between and interpreting it and changing what it says to conform it to what you believe... like the book of Mormon.

Me personally, it has to do with my personal relationship with God, not a denomination

the way to find the right one is by the bible,,, if you read it you will know that only one religion fits and thats christians

I do not need a REWARD FOR GOOD BEHAVIOUR TO GET ME TO FOLLOW WHAT I FEEL IS RIGHT,(in reference to a HEAVEN)
I do not need the threat of not getting a reward at the end, to keep me from doing something bad.
that is rather demeaning, to think that I am but a child, that will be rewarded for being good.
I have my own morality, my own mind to determine which courses of action I should take.

... baldwinwolf.. to figure out the one and only truth. you need to go to the bible. thats all im going to say..
also I want to ask you a question.
do you think you are a good person?

through answering these questions I will summarize what christianity is all about.
once again.. do you believe you are a good person?

my thing is god in its self not these stupid religions,, but god in him self who supposidly wrote the bible,,,

if this isnt the true god then a quetion to ponder on,,

why is it still the highest selling book in al the world???

why do so many turn to this book and not to buddism or satan or the other thousands of religions out there?

it doesn't matter if a person thinks they are a good person or not.
anyone who knows the ten commandments knows that none of us have kept them.. not even christians.

NO ONE is without sin and gods knows this but the difference is as soon as I ask for him to forgive me I am with out sin until I sin again lol but im like a sheep quick to go down the rong path

im just trying to make a point.
baldwinwolf
do you think you are a good person.?

GOOD BEHAVIOR DOES NOT AND I REPEAT DOES NOT GET YOU INTO HEAVEN,,, being saved gets you into heaven and loving and knowing god is there is what its all about not how many good things you can do well I g2g

yes I am a good person, a very good person, but I do not need a bible to tell me which way to go.
I have studied many different beliefs, read many different 'holy books' (including the bible)
my beliefs come from what I see to be true, to me being a wiccan and rejoicing in being a part of this mother earth of ours, is right.
no one is going to make me believe anything different.

question is- DO YOU BELIEVE ME TO BE A GOOD PERSON?

u cud be a good person all you want but at the end of the day its nothing with out god,,,

okay. have you ever lied?

im not trying to make you believe anything different ,, just like your showing us what ubelieve I show you what I believe,,,

but with your belief you still havent answered my question

who do you think created everything the galaxy included?

baldwinwolf. have you ever lied?

every one lies

I know im trying to get somewhere w/ this. lol
you will see. haha

BALDWINWOLF... HAVE YOU EVER LIED?

looking at the ten commandments...none of us have kept them.

Do not tell a lie- We all lie, that makes a liars.
Do not steal- A majority of us have stolen (even pieces of candy) that makes us a theif
Do not committ adultry - We have all looked at someone with lust, which in the bible says we have already committed adultry in our hearts. that makes us and adulterer.

No one has kept them, and that was only three of them. No one is a good person.
the only difference is that Jesus took our (believers) fine for our sins and paid it in full.

katydid is right that s what I was trying to get at.
and if you repent (turn from your sins) and trust in Jesus to save you then you can have everlasting life w/ God... so you go to heaven not b/c your a good person but b/c you have been saved by a good God and He gets all the glory

Little Logan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVUGb98RcSA

HAVE YOU EVER LIED?
SUDDENLY THIS HAS BECOME A PERSONAL 'INQUISITION'
I do not follow the bible.
everything on the planet is a mix of dark and light, good and bad, I am a part of that - as all of you are.
I do not need an organized religion to supress that which it has determined to be bad.
I make that decision on my own- utilizing my own morality.
gather a bunch of christians together, how many of them have had an affair?
for that matter- how many of them have lied?
churches- when it really comes down to it- end up being hothouses of immorality.
don't believe it?
look at the divorce rate
look at the birth rate outside of marriage.
look at the number of priests coming out of the woodwork- accused of child molestation.
now take a count of how many of these people were 'god fearing people'.
I think that the number will be rather high.
I have heard of these things, I have seen these things with my own eyes, before I became sober- I drank in the bars with these church goers, I watched them 'sin' and then return to church bright and early sunday morning- hungover from the night before.
to me 'christianity ' is used to whitewash a lot of sins.
I have seen the priesthood seek to keep molestation private.
I have seen righteous people not pursue a person who made their underage daughter pregnant. seen with my own eyes- a clear cut case of statutory rape, kept from the public and out of the courts- because it would look bad.
you can't tell me that this is rightousness, that this is moral, that this is right.
I am not going to swallow it.

I agree w/ you completely there are MANY hypocrits w/in the church the bible teaches about these hypocrits and they are called 'false converts' like I have told you before. jesus said that a person must be born again to enter into heaven this is a life changing experiance where God saves a person, changes a person and changes a persons desires to do as God commands. so a person no longer trys to follow God but WANTS to follow God.

I am dark and light, good and bad, and I answer to noone exept nature.
you live your lives the way you see fit.
I live by my way.
I do not need to be saved- to ascend.
I am an integral part of the big picture.
a part of nature.
I AM AN ANIMAL- NO BETTER AND NO WORSE THAN ANY OTHER ON THE PLANET, A MEMBER OF THE ANIMAL KINGDOM.
I see no evidence of the christian god.
therefore I do not believe in the christian god.
that is simply how it is.

I agree that none of that is right. There are many churches that are that way but that doesn't mean that ALL of them are that way. Some 'christians' do you use there christianity to cover up fo the things they do do... in that case I would have to wonder if they were ever really christians in the first place.

twilightgrl, baldinwold has already made it clear he's not a Christain, so it's unlikely he puts stock in your 10 commandments either. That trick doesn't actually work to convert people who don't believe the 10 commandments are authoritative. By the way, I lie occasionally, I cheat occasionally, I lust, etc., and I still consider myself a good person by MY standards.

In answer to the OP, a careful examination of the available evidence does not indicate the existence of any gods. Further, an analysis of the history of religion shows that the concept of gods originated from anthropomorphizing the sun, moon, planets and constellations. In other words, the very concept of gods originated from faulty ancient thinking. The entire phenomenon is explainable in ordinary terms.

Philosophically, it does not follow that the universe needs a creator. Even the Big Bang does not imply any such thing. If time is an aspect of the universe, then to say 'the universe was created' implies a time when time did not exist - a logical impossibility. All the prime mover type arguments, ontological arguments, etc. have been thoroughly debunked by more modern philosophers, so god concepts fail from this perspective as well.

Arguments from the infallibility of ancient texts amount to crazy talk. You're wasting your time if you take that approach. I'm not going to spend a lifetime listening to someone invent wild eyed speculations to harmonize away all the obvious contraditions and nonsense in such books. The same bogus approach could be applied to Harry Potter as easily as the Bible.

In the end, I have as much reason to think some god is real as I do to think any other fictional character might actually be real.

I agree KATYDID, and therin lies the soul of the matter, I present myself as who I am- no need for facades, I take on the world under my terms, I follow my own morality, I do not choose to hide behind a belief.
I do not WITNESS my beliefs upon those who do not want to hear it.
my beliefs are my own.
arrived at through careful consideration- and opening my own eyes to the world.
I make my own path through this world, I don't need a congregation of people to tell me I am good.
I am not perfect- perfection does not exist within nature- and therein I have found my place.

..toadaly...the problem is, is what you have already stated. you mentioned that by YOUR own standards you are a good person but you must measure by Gods standards. what was the overwhelming evidence that persuaded you to think there is no God? was it the fact that something had to be created out of nothing?

my congregation would not believe that im good nor would they tell me that im good because they are BIBLE BELIEVING christians who know we are bad. the one question that you must ask yourself 'is what im saying true?' and if it is true then you must understand why I witness. bc if its truth you have rejected god. his plan of salvation