Obama says jesus christ is not the only way to heaven?

dog Asked by amblessed 4 months ago, 47 answers.

To the Christians here: Obama claims to be a Christian, yet he proclaims that Jesus Christ is not the only WAY to Heaven - Is he right or is he a false prophet ?

Answered by arachnid on Jul 23, 2008, 03:05AM
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I agree that it's depressing that a US presidential candidate's religion seems to matter so much to people. Surely a candidate who kept his religious beliefs to himself and believed in everyone else's right to do the same would be better all around? Given that any candidate's beliefs almost certainly differ in some way from your own, wouldn't you rather elect one who respects the right for you to keep yours, rather than trying to mandate his own?

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Answered by hooch on Jul 22, 2008, 10:16AM
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he sounds to me like a flase prophet

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Answered by trisarahtops on Jul 22, 2008, 10:17AM
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I think people need to stop worrying about what Obama's religion is, or what his thoughts on religion is. Honesly, who cares. You shouldn't judge someones personallity or how you look at someone just because of there religion. I'm not saying that YOU are.But it goes the same with race, you shouldn't judge someone just because of the color of there skin. I think a lot of people hate on Obama because he's black. And they want to start all these rumors about him. They point out every flaw about him and make up so many things that aren't true.

Anyway. OBAMA 08 BABY!

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Answered by amblessed on Jul 22, 2008, 10:33AM
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The problem is, this is absolutely the truth ! - a Christian believes the Bible/God's word from cover to cover - anyone who bothers to read it will find He tells us JESUS is the ONLY WAY - to deny is calling God a liar - admirable trait to you, not me.

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Answered by youpunk449 on Jul 22, 2008, 10:53AM
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I think that he's a false prophet.
jesus is the only way to heaven.

Answered by kandykisses098 on Jul 22, 2008, 10:57AM
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jesus is not the only way to get into heaven. as a catholic, we are taught that we need our faith (jesus christ) and good deeds to get into heaven. I'm not saying obama is a catholic christian, bc he's sooo not, but he's not wrong.

Answered by editor on Jul 22, 2008, 11:01AM
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What does that have to do with how he will run the country?

Honestly, if he doesn't kill millions of unarmed Iraqi women and children, that's a step up from Bush. How is that justified to you, Bill?

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Answered by torikeene on Jul 22, 2008, 11:08AM
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Jesus is the only way to heaven. Let me point out a few verses if you will.

Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me. John 14:6

By grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of your selves, it is the Gift of God, not as a result of works, lest anyone should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

As many as recieved Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name. John 1:12

Works are used to build up your treasure in heaven, not to get you there. These words are from the Bible. It is what I believe. No one can make me believe otherwise.

I don't know if I would consider him false prophet, mislead, or just another politician saying what everyone wants to hear, but I for one believe he is wrong.

I hope that too many aren't swayed by his comments. I want everyone to be in heaven with me!

Answered by funadvice on Jul 22, 2008, 11:24AM
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Barock Obama is a false prophet. Jesus is our savior, and Heavenly Father is our lord.
He doesn't know what he's talking about since he claims to be a Christian. His former Pastor has been an issue with the media since, he's very wrong about Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ as far as it should be innterpetted. I don't really know much about the Trinity church but, I know that Barock Obama doesn't think straight when it comes to being Christian.
I don't care for the man as it is. He needs to really read up on the bible and, get his facts straight and know what he talks about to Christians. If he says, that hard working americans aren't like him or his fellow believers, and, he's saying that americans cling to their bibles and guns, well that really says that he's not being truthful when it comes to his faith.
His Pastor is pretty bitter and, that's what Barock Obama thinks of all of us church going people.
So, to answer your question, he's deffenately a false prophet, or, you could say, not a prophet or Christian at all.
He won't be good for this country and, so, if you want him in the White House, good luck.

Answered by funadvice on Jul 22, 2008, 11:36AM
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Oh, Bill, I didn't realize that this was your question until I looked.
I just want to add, that if this was a Liberal's question, then I probably would've said to them if you want them in the White House, then good Luck.
I hope you don't get afended to my previous answer since I honestly thought that this was a Liberal's question.
I'm glad I answered this for you so, again, please don't be mad at me when you read my previous answer.
Leslie

Answered by funadvice on Jul 22, 2008, 11:45AM
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didnt the bible say something about the only way getting to heaven is through him and that he is the only way?...again I dont think relegion should be a huge issue in the presidential election because isnt that like a personal matter and should we as americans really consider that a factor in choosing our next president? Even if he did say that I dont think it matters...

Answered by funadvice on Jul 22, 2008, 12:33PM
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"In religion, the term false prophet is a label given to a person who is viewed as illegitimately claiming charismatic authority within a religious group. The individual may be seen as one who falsely claims the gift of prophecy, or who uses that gift for demagogy or evil ends. The label 'prophet' can be extremely subjective: Without exception, someone who is considered a 'true' prophet by some people, is simultaneously considered a 'false' prophet by some others.

Prophets are particularly important figures in many of the world's major religions. In particular, this article will focus on false prophets in Judaism, Christianity and Islam and the specific interpretative and theological models each religion uses in order to distinguish a true prophet from a false one."

I think that makes him a Christian that believes differently than you...

There is someone on funadvice who claims to be a Christian yet spews the most hateful, racist, bigoted comments ever...I have NEVER heard you say any of the hateful things that she says...
What does that make her?

Answered by funadvice on Jul 22, 2008, 02:45PM
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Obama does not fit the definition of a "flase prophet"...
I guess you think he is the anti-christ also...

oh, you right-wingers...

Answered by funadvice on Jul 22, 2008, 02:54PM
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Firstly, I don't think he is a prophet at all. He is a politician. I am a teacher. Amblessed is a retired air traffic controller. It is, of course, possible that someone in any of those jobs could also be a prophet, but not everyone who speaks or expresses a public opinion is a prophet. So I think the original question makes a wrong assumption. He's not any kind of prophet and I think he would agree with that statement. Correct me if you know differently, please.

I read a more detailed assessment of what Obama said on this subject in another question. I think that it may have been amoeba who provided the details of his speech (thanks). I think that what he said was more complex than the summary presented above. It would be inaccurate to boil it down to: 'anyone can get to heaven, Jesus is not the only way'. It might be fairer to say that he gave a politician's answer which must have been close to his own belief but may have been a bit hazy on details so as not to offend potential voters. That keeps him in good company! All politicans do that, I'm afraid.

As I've said in other posts, I know that Jesus said: 'I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one shall come to the Father except through me'. I also know that St Paul taught that people would be judged on what they have known, so that the possiblity is there that others might get to heaven if they have followed their own understanding of God or goodness to perfection. My gratitude to Jesus is that He made the way dependent on His sacrifice for me, not on my perfection.

So, perhaps I could go some way with what Obama said. I have known or learned about very godly Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Bhuddists and Muslims. I have known very good atheists. They taught me things about God. God judges their hearts, not me. But I do hold Jesus to be the one sure Way.

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Answered by captainassassin on Jul 22, 2008, 04:56PM
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***The problem is, this is absolutely the truth ! - a Christian believes the Bible/God's word from cover to cover***

WRONG!

Even YOU don't follow and/or believe EVERYTHING in the Bible.

Answered by eleni on Jul 22, 2008, 06:03PM
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Are we voting for a president or a preacher? Give me a break already!

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Answered by gasmanobt3 on Jul 22, 2008, 07:39PM
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Obama, is a false prophet in the sense that he says there is more than one way into heaven. He is a professing Christian and as such, I would hope, should not deny that Jesus is the only way into heaven. Keep in mind that he said he is a Christian and not another religion. Should this negate his chance for office? It's up to the American public via a vote. We'll see in November. Besides whoever God has ordained to run the States will be in the White House no matter what we, the people, may think.
As far as the anti-Christ comment goes, any person who goes against Christ is just that, Anti-Christ. That includes a lot of professing Christians. The word anti-christ from the Greek meaning, " an opponent of Jesus the Messiah" So at one time or another we all have or are being anti-Christ.

Answered by toadaly on Jul 22, 2008, 09:12PM
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It's a bad omen for the future of the US, as well as the world, when the debate centers on which of the two major party candidates is more of a religious fanatic - as if that were a good thing!

If Jesus weren't a fictional character, he'd be rolling in his empty tomb.

Answered by rickd on Jul 22, 2008, 09:13PM
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"I think a lot of people hate on Obama because he's black. " - nice try - trisaratops.

Your candidate has not even lost yet, and you are already playing the race card. I see it differently. I believe Obama will be elected because he is black.

"if he doesn't kill millions of unarmed Iraqi women and children, that's a step up from Bush." -wouldnt expect anything else from you editor. So our troops have killed millions of Iraqi's now huh? you are unbelievable. Are you bucking for a spot on the view? Spew your lies on the daily koz, and save this wonderful website for the truth.

Answered by captainassassin on Jul 22, 2008, 10:29PM
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***Besides whoever God has ordained to run the States will be in the White House no matter what we, the people, may think.***

Uh huh... so much for free-will...

Answered by silverwings on Jul 22, 2008, 10:32PM
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I am not aware of what he has or hasn't said, concerning this, however, I do believe that the end time religion, or one world religion, will be one in which every god that is worshiped, will have equal standing. There will be so many ways to supposedly get to god, that almost anything will go.

This is already starting with the Church of Humanity, where there is no God, no blood, no redemption of sins, no Jesus, only man, in his highest glory, and this should be highly popular, with so many against the One True God. Man elevating himself as God.

I know that Oprah is promoting this heavily, and already has millions of followers.

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