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Hilary clinton or barrack obama?

Thunder Robot Asked by funadvice 8 months ago, 25 answers.
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Can anyone give me an over-view of Hilary Clinton and Barrack Obama's poltical views?
Also, I'd like to know (from the democrats) who likes who and why?

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Thunder Robot Answered by funadvice on Feb 07, 2008, 08:15PM
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Obama and Clinton actually have major differences in their health care policies. I think this question was already asked earlier, but Clinton wants mandatory health insurance, meaning everyone has to purchase coverage even if you don't want or need it, while Obama wants to address the issue by getting a consensus from industry leaders. He does want mandatory coverage for children.

On the Iraq war, I've gotten tired of listening to Obama's campaign talk about how Clinton voted to authorize the war. The reality is, the two have voted almost identically on every Iraq issue that's come before Congress since Obama entered the Senate, including everything from funding to people running the show.

Obviously, both have said they'll start withdrawing troops right away. It really doesn't matter though, because a major withdrawal of troops is already due this year as the surge is about to end. If either of them wins, they will take office one year from now, and the situation there will be different. But Obama would have a very limited presence of US troops in Iraq to keep an eye out for al-Qaeda operations, what exactly that means he's never really said. Clinton has been even less specific, saying she'll defer to her advisers to come up with a plan. So who really knows what either of them would really do; right now, it's all just propaganda to get elected.

On immigration, Clinton wants deportation of illegal immigrants who are criminals, and her path for illegals to become legal is to pay fines and back taxes, learn English (with government assistance), and defer priority to legal applicants. Obama takes a more open stance, favoring driver's licenses for illegals and wants an easier path for citizenship for them. Again, mostly propaganda.

My belief is, it really doesn't matter what either of these two, or any candidate, says they will do as president during their campaign, because a president has almost never been able to pass his complete agenda without drastic changes. The bottom line is, who will be the wiser, more knowledgeable, effective and skilled leader. It's up to you to decide if that is Obama or Clinton (if you're a Democrat, anyways!)

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Toadaly Answered by toadaly on Feb 06, 2008, 08:43PM
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Politically, Hillary is a woman, whereas Obama is black. Also, they're both not Republicans. Sorry, but that's the level of thought 95% of the voters are putting in to this.

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Thunder Robot Answered by funadvice on Feb 06, 2008, 08:47PM
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thats exactly why I was trying to put a little more thought into it. I'm not actually voting (im not old enough) but I think it would be helpful to know at least something (beyond what you just said) about this.

kitty Answered by ty on Feb 06, 2008, 10:15PM
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Ok I havent gone into this in detail but I believe Obama is pro universal health care, wants tax cuts for the poor and middle class, wants to end the war in iraq, doesnt believe that deporting 12 million immigrants is going to work, believes in diplomacy when dealing with other countries...

All I know about Clinton is that she's for universal health care...

kitty Answered by ty on Feb 06, 2008, 11:55PM
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oh and I like obama, mainly because he actually takes a stand, clinton's been dodging a lot of issues...

Answered by deerhunter270 on Feb 07, 2008, 06:10PM
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Clinton at least votes one way or another on the issues. Barack only has voted present which means he isn't for sure. He is still a rookie and needs more experience with governing so does Hillary. They are all out to screw the middle class so what does it matter who you vote for

dog Answered by amblessed on Feb 24, 2008, 09:17AM
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Obama voting:

Obama voted against the confirmation of John Roberts for the Supreme Court, saying he “far more often used his formidable skills on behalf of the strong in opposition to the weak.”
He also cast a vote against Samuel Alito and even voted in favor of a filibuster to stall his confirmation.
Obama opposed a bill in 2006 that would have denied citizenship or other legal status to illegal immigrants, and voted last year against a measure that would have allowed police to question people about their immigration status under certain circumstance.
He voted in favor of the immigration reform bill sponsored by John McCain and Ted Kennedy that would have allowed many illegal aliens to become legal residents.
Last October Obama voted for an act that would have allowed illegal immigrants who become permanent legal residents to qualify for lower in-state tuition rates at state universities. That measure was opposed by Democrats in a number of swing states that could be pivotal in this year’s election, MSNBC observed.
The Illinois Senator voted against a 2006 bill to prohibit the transportation of a minor girl across state lines to get an abortion if this would circumvent parental consent.
Obama voted against a bill extending the cuts in capital gains and dividends tax rates that Congress enacted in 2003, and against the repeal of the tax on inherited wealth, the estate tax.
In June 2006, Obama voted against a bill that would have required President Bush to withdraw most U.S. troops from Iraq by July 1, 2007. But this past September, he joined 27 other Democrats in voting for a bill ordering Bush to begin withdrawing most American forces within 90 days. The bill failed to pass.
He is against making English the official language.

Answered by whocarez on Feb 25, 2008, 01:08AM
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as long as its not a republican its all the same, I heard obama wants to legalize weed is that true?

Answered by matilda on Feb 27, 2008, 02:14PM
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Hilary needs experience? what planet are you from? All I know is that during the Clinton administration we had full employment and no wars. Companies were better to their employees because jobs were easier to get and I made money in the stock market. Why would I wote for Obama who would probably just raise our taxes to take care of more welfare mothers. I heard that he also wants to help educate children of african immigrants on our dollar. who is going to pay to educate mine?

Answered by observer on Feb 28, 2008, 04:39AM
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I cannot vote nor do I live in America but from an outside view, I would be very afraid of Obama , he is too young for starters !! Hilary on the other hand is a very learned and experienced person all round and I think she would be the best US President yet !!!

dog Answered by amblessed on Mar 18, 2008, 08:27PM
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After watching the Obama speech today, I have some Random thoughts:

- He stated previously that he was not present at any of these inflammatory sermons, yet today said 'I was'.

- Previously stated he wasn't aware Rev Wright was 'controversial', yet months ago the reason he gave for canceling Rev Wright to give the prayer at his entering the race announcement was 'some of his sermons are kind of rough'.

- His wife is middle-aged, yet she states 'now is the first time I have been proud of America in my lifetime' (not exact words but close).

- it is common for people to judge people by 'the friends they keep'

- I find many of Rev Wright's views frightening for many reasons.

- it seemed to me he was saying in the overall tone of the message - whites are racist / African-Americans are not.

- he seemed to equate what Rev Wright said with what Geraldine Farraro said.

- he remembered what his Grandmother's views were from childhood, yet not more recent views of Rev Wright.

- seems to me if you genuinely believe for 20 years he did not notice / figure out what was coming from that pulpit - how can one come to the conclusion as President he would have the ability and awareness to recognize bad judgement, execute due diligence, and be able to accutely discern matters - be an effective Leader of the Country.

- He is selling himself as very different from Rev Wright, he refuses to totally separate himself.

Again, these are just Random thoughts I had which I think merits 'food for thought'.

me Answered by twilightgrl911 on Mar 22, 2008, 04:22PM
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I dont like either one of them.

Answered by chepowsky on Mar 24, 2008, 05:44PM
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She has "forty-years" experience: with Bill, Huma Abedin, Monicaaa, Mr Singh...whereas Obama does not have experince except like that. Behold, Bill is eager enter white house for real action this time and Hillary will see him in Fast-forward action to help "health-care" of some intern.

dog Answered by amblessed on Apr 02, 2008, 05:02PM
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4/2/08: ABC News' George Stephanopoulos Reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and former President Bill Clinton are making very direct arguments to Democratic superdelegates, starkly insisting Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., cannot win a general election against presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Sources with direct knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Clinton and Governer Bill Richardson, D-N.M., prior to the Governor's endorsement of Obama say she told him flatly, "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."

Richardson, who served in President Clinton's cabinet, disagreed.

dog Answered by amblessed on Apr 03, 2008, 10:25AM
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4/3/08: Jane Fonda today endorsed Obama - I know Hillary's relieved as any candidate would be !!

I love koga Answered by kogalovr on Apr 05, 2008, 02:23AM
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hillory clinton should be president and b 1st woman president and bill clinton 1st man 2b 1st man

I love koga Answered by kogalovr on Apr 05, 2008, 02:23AM
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hillory clinton should be president and b 1st woman president and bill clinton 1st man 2b 1st man

dog Answered by amblessed on Apr 05, 2008, 06:39AM
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Obama, in a 1996 candidate survey, revealed his 2nd Amendment answer: asked if he supports legislation to, “ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.” His one-word answer—uncommonly direct and lacking the flowery eloquence we’ve come to expect from him—was “Yes.”

dog Answered by amblessed on Apr 16, 2008, 07:08PM
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Interesting point I read:

In his speech on race, Obama sought to evoke sympathy for Wright. He described a “lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one’s family...”

Obama said this was “the reality in which Rev. Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up. They came of age in the late fifties and early sixties, a time when segregation was still the law of the land and opportunity was systematically constricted...Even for those blacks who did make it, questions of race, and racism, continue to define their worldview in fundamental ways. For the men and women of Rev. Wright’s generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years.”

In retirement, Wright will continue a life of privilege that dates back to Central High. As a retirement gift, Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ is building him a million-dollar home abutting Odyssey Country Club and Golf Course in the nearly all-white Chicago suburb of Tinley Park. The home sits on land the pastor purchased in 2004 for $345,000. In December 2006, Wright sold the land to his church, which took out a $1.6 million mortgage on the property. In April 2007, the church applied for a building permit for the brick and stone structure.

Wright’s new home has 10,340 square feet of space, about four times the size of a typical suburban house. It includes four bedrooms, an elevator, an exercise room, and a four-car garage.

Rather than being a victim of oppression of blacks, as Obama has claimed, Wright is a symbol of the American dream !

dog Answered by amblessed on Apr 25, 2008, 04:50PM
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Seen on the net (don't know if it's true or not) :-)

John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barak Obama were walking down a Washington
D.C. street when they came upon a homeless person.

The Republican, John McCain, gave the homeless person his business card and told
him to come to his office for a job. He then took $20 out of his pocket and gave
it to the homeless person.

Hillary was very impressed. When they came upon another homeless person she
decided to help. She walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions
to the welfare office. She then reached into John McCain's pocket and got out
$20. She kept $15 for her administrative fees and gave the homeless person $5.

When they came upon yet another homeless person Barak told the homeless person
to "have hope...change is coming..." and gave him nothing.

Now do you understand the difference?

dog Answered by amblessed on Apr 27, 2008, 08:04AM
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4/26/08: House Majority Whip James Clyburn, the highest-ranking African-American in the Congress, says blacks believe Hillary Clinton is staying in the presidential race to drag down Barack Obama so John McCain will win the White House — and she can run again in 2012.

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