God vs evolution

I have to ask who beleaves in what? I know there is no way some one is just created. impossible to prove my point spontaneous combustion. It is impossible. The wick affect is just a theory which needs non-living things to even catch fire. Why is it so...

hard to beleave that the greek titian prometheus crafted humans out of clay. Its the same story with god. Evolution is at lest comprehensable. That over long periods of time we developed into our current state and in the future we will continue to evolve. Prove my point a germ can mutate and evolve. take microbes they need to evolve to survive in their new hosts and propagate it's self. Please I'm not trying to offend any one but give me one shred of proof that shows god ever existed.

I beleive in evolution, because if I think too much about god I get a bad migrane, lol

I believe in them both...evolution makes a lot if sense and have lots of proof to prove it..
but I also believe in god..
some how their both connected...peace

Using your rationale, prove that God didnt exist...

God and evolution are not mutually exclusive (I mean unless you believe in the literal word of the bible, but no one said conservative christians had exclusive rights to the concept of God).

Is it not possible that God set up the system of evolution?

Ofcourse I dont actually believe that, but my point is, a rationale mind cannot discount anything that is impossible to prove (even the non-existence of God)

Well, many of the things we place as most important in our lives--love, joy, happiness, forgiveness, friendship, and beauty--are essentially impossible to prove; however, that makes them no less real. I cannot look at a friendship under a microscope or place it on scales to measure its value in my life. I can ponder it, feel thankfulness for it, strengthen it, and treasure it. The same is true with my relationship with the Lord.

The question should really be, how can you explain science without the presence of an Almighty God? It amazes me that brilliant people would rather hang their hats on truly unprovable issues like evolution than have faith in God. Scripture has proven itself time and time again. It has never been wrong! How many scientists can claim that?

Name one, just one, scientist who came to earth as the fulfillment of hundreds of prophecies, then died to save mankind from their sins, and then rose from the dead after three days, proving His divinity! There is not one. The Bible has been tested through centuries and has never been disproved. It should be the most revered volume of scientific study that exists

"For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works" (Titus 2:11-14).

Notice what the text of Scripture says, "... has appeared to all men,". Not only has God appeared to all men, but His son Jesus Christ is coming again to rapture (catch up) those who have given their hearts to Him. While we wait for His second coming "we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ".

true true but now we get into the what ifs.
What if there is a god is he as righteous as we were lead to beleave. What if the reason god or Jesus haven't reappeared is that they are finished with their experiments or are just bored with us or he is laughing at us for our antics to understand him.

"love, joy, happiness, forgiveness, friendship, and beauty--are essentially impossible to prove; however, that makes them no less real."

You can actually examine all of those things by looking at a scan of someone's brain.

"It amazes me that brilliant people would rather hang their hats on truly unprovable issues like evolution than have faith in God."

So, you demand *additional* proof to accept evolution, yet you accept God's existence totally on faith? At least you're willing to openly state how contradictory your views are.

"Name one, just one, scientist who came to earth as the fulfillment of hundreds of prophecies, then died to save mankind from their sins, and then rose from the dead after three days, proving His divinity!"

Scientists don't usually dabble in divinity or spiritual prophecy. Maybe that's a better explanation for your question than "scientists aren't as holy as Jesus".

The better question is, how many pagan religions and spiritual traditions DON'T have a god whose story bears striking resemblance to that of Jesus Christ?

"Not only has God appeared to all men, but His son Jesus Christ is coming again to rapture (catch up) those who have given their hearts to Him. "

God has not appeared to all men. If he did, there would be demonstratable proof, and no more doubt, or any need for faith, which you claimed was necessary earlier in your post.

Religion has yet to come up with a good explanation for the origin of things. Until it does, I'll rely on what can be observed and proven in the natural world.

great comment mjax- I totally agree.
I believe in EVOLUTION, without the hand of the 'divine' ,just the guidance of 'nature'.

I think evolution is just too logical to throw aside. If you have faith, awesome! If you don't, awesome! For some people it works and for others it doesn't. The reason I don't think religion is the route to go is because it's COMPLETELY based on believing in it. You CANNOT prove it. The bible is just a giant collection of oral stories that were passed down for hundreds of year. Have you ever played a game of telephone? For those who have you know how easily the message can be manipulated after like, 10 people, until the original message is FAR from what is being passed around now. Being devils advocate, many cultures have stories of higher beings, or "God" like figures, so there must be something out there, right? Or maybe people just need something to believe in...

you can believe in both. personally, I believe in evolution.

The idea of a personal creator god who is loving and all the omni's is easily shown to be inconsistent, without ever dragging evolution's good name into the muck.

Evolution does not disprove the idea of gods (although perhaps some very confined gods, yes). What evolution fundamentally did, was a eureka effect among philosophers.

Magic was no longer seen as required to explain the existence of life. This spawned modern intellectual atheism (albeit VERY slowly).

evoloution
I dont beleive in god
but if there ever was one, its name would be the enviroment
the enviroment things live in has everything to do with evolution
and who/what we end up as
things evolve to adapt to the changing enviroment
over millions of years something will evolve into something else
but to get there, it took thousands of other new species that couldnt adapt to the enviroment and died out

someone tell me where God came from then please. I'd like to know. Without the reply "he has always existed"...

Amblessed: "The question should really be, how can you explain science without the presence of an Almighty God?"

Why should that be the question?

Religion is philosphical and asks "Why"?
Science is factual and asks "How"?

They should be mutually exculsive. But problems arise when zealots try to inject their religious beliefs into the findings of scientific discovery.

Do you believe the earth is the center of the universe? Galilleo was tried and convicted by the church for proving that was not true. What makes you think that mountains and mountains of evidence should be discarded solely because it does not confrom to the the story presented in the bible.

Amblessed, I know you are not a stupid person, but how in the world can you possibly deny the overwhelming evidence of evolution?

And can you answer that with out bringing religious dogma into it? Just show me evidence that refutes the evolution.

I don't - God is the Creator - many things evolve (moth into a butterfly, tadpoles into frogs, etc) - certainly makes Him no less God - as far as man - He tells us in His Word: Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

I hate when people bring the bible into this in my mind there is no proof that the bible didn't start out a a colt. plus it could have been written by 40 drunk me who thought it could be fun or if they wanted to start a new religion.

 
I believe in a deist God. I also accept evolution as the way things have come to be since God instituted the Big Bang.

Who are we, man, that we can dictate what God could or couldn't use as a tool of creation.

what is god? who is god? how can there be a god? what is the big bang? how could anyone beleave that there is only one being that created earth or life? Could "God" be an alien life form? Could the bible "Holy Book" be just a book?

"I don't - God is the Creator - many things evolve (moth into a butterfly, tadpoles into frogs, etc) - certainly makes Him no less God - as far as man - He tells us in His Word: Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

amblessed, I am trying to be serious here. You don't what? Deny evolution.

You said the evolution is "truly unprovable". Can you please tell me how you can say such a thing when there is overwhelming evidence supporting evolution. Either the evidence is wrong, or you are.

And it is catterpillars that turn into butterflies and moths (I am not suggesting you didn't know this, just a mistake I am sure), and the don't evolve. They change through metamorphasis. Evolution is a much longer process.

And I know what you believe about god, you don't have to keep reinforcing it to me. You seem to have no problem talking about politics with out bringing god into it. Why can't you discuss science in the same way?

'I don't - God is the Creator - many things evolve (moth into a butterfly, tadpoles into frogs, etc) - certainly makes Him no less God - as far as man - He tells us in His Word: Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.'

Correct me if I'm wrong because I really like to know if someone has a legitimate argument against me, but last time I checked tadpoles morphing into frogs wasn't evolution; it was them growing up. Since tadpoles are baby frogs I don't see why evolution plays a role in their development into mature stages. >=(

ahlevi, everything in the Bible claims the Earth is flat and has edges, unless it's supposed to be taken figuratively, but if that is what else can be? A better explanation was that it was written by people in a time period when it was thought the Earth was flat, instead of God saying it was.

The closes thing I found was "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth. (Isaiah 40:22) It claims the Earth is a circle. A circle is not round or sphere, it's flat.

So going by your logic have we disproven the existence of God?

"love, joy, happiness, forgiveness, friendship, and beauty" only come from your brain so is it possible that God beliefs only exist there to?

a lot of people who do not believe in evolution simply do not understand it, and conflicts with their religious beliefs so they deny it. But yes in reality evolution is true, and in my opinion God, was just invented to explain the orgins of everything.