Can Creationists be "real" scientists?(50.00%)
Elone,
It is clear you have no idea what evolutionary theory actually is and why so many people believe it to be true. It is also clear you have never read any books on the subject or looked at the evidence.
Your strawman version of evolution ...
Can you Prove God?
"If we humans evolved and were not created, then why did the human race suddenly stop evolving?"
We haven't.
"Why aren't we continuing to evolve into even species or sub species?"
Do you expect to see it happen in single generation? Contrary ...
Can you Prove God?
There you go again, Orion. Threatening me with your all loving god.
Can you Prove God?
Yeah - you keep saying that Orion, but you have yet to provide ANY proof that this is actually the case. So exactly why should *I* have faith in your Jewish zombie?
Does God exist and why?
"Yes god exists. The things around us are the proof of gods existance."
No - they are proof those things themselves exist. Since when do they require a creator? Have you actually READ any of the replied here?
" wtihout him tere is nothing. "
...
My family and friends want me to believe.
"How do you know Gods fake if you never opened up your heart and gave him a chance to have a relationship with you.?"
Meaning: Stop thinking about it and start attributing every good feeling you have as the presence of an invisible magic sky god.
Does God exist and why?
He also KNEW billions were destined for hell. What a loving god he is.
Does God exist and why?
"There was once nothing other than God, who always has been and always will be."
Sigh.
Got any evidence of that, or just a warm fuzzy feeling?
Prove god exists
Beautiful234,
Which is it 14 or 15 minutes?
I wonder, if the doctors had done nothing at all, would god still have brought him back to life?
Strange how these events are attributed to the greatness of god, yet all the terrible ways people die ...
What would I require to believe in God?
"They came up with this crap because of all of the controversy over the fact that their precious theory violated every physical law they held dear."
Firstly, changing your ideas based on the evidence before you is the only rational response. Only t...
Does God exist and why?
"God's real. all men know it they just supress it."
Pure conjecture on your part. Or has your god given you telepathic powers?
"if there wasnt a god then how could this world and univeres have gotten here."
Incredibly weak argument that has p...
What do I tell my mother if I've decided to become an Atheist?(75.00%)
Is there any need to tell her? What will it achieve?
Still, you can ask the difficult questions if the topic ever comes up. Reason with her over the years. Eventually she may realise that she believes *because* she believes.
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
I don't believe there is a god. I was pointing out that it is entirely possible for theists to conclude that "god created evolution" so they can have their cake and eat it to.
Of course, in the process they completely write off the Genesis story ...
Do Christians believe that women are weaker?
"The shots alone were extremely painful not to mention the surgery! Anyway, he finally asked me if I was doing ok, I said 'sure why'"
So you lied to him. Naughty Christian.
Do Christians believe that women are weaker?
Sorry...
Let me state one thing then - I do not consider women weaker at all. They may have different skill sets (in general), but that does not equate to weaker in any respect.
It seems the central book of Christianity has a *very* different vi...
Do Christians believe that women are weaker?
Wow - looks like we really started something here.
It is interesting to watch believers squirm and wriggle their way out of the obvious sexism contained in the bible. Basically they say "it's all in the OT, so doesn't matter", or "Jesus came and ch...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
Thank you Amoeba. It is difficult to get across concepts to people who seem to lack a basic understanding of chemistry, physics, biology, or maths - let alone something like evolution. Even so, the central concepts of evolution are not that hard to ...
Difference between Christian and Catholic(100.00%)
Catholics are just one type of Christian, just as Baptists, Presbyterians, Orthodox, Methodists, Anglican, Lutheran, Brethren, etc
Do Christians believe that women are weaker?(0.00%)
Stephanief987,
I guess you haven't actually read your bible?
Let's look at a few passages:
Lot offers his two daughters for gang rape, rather than letting the mob have their way with his male guests. 2 Pet.2:7-8. 19:8
Rachel considers her...
Do Christians believe that women are weaker?
To spite what the bible says, no. Women are equals in most (all?) Christian nations, which just goes to show you that their morality does not come from their precious, in-errant, book directed by god himself.
What would I require to believe in God?
I AM GOD.
There! Now there are 2 gods :)
Seriously - is that a real argument you are putting forward? Does someone have to claim to be a god before they can even be considered one? Does claiming you are a god, prove you are a god? No.
What would I require to believe in God?
"Well the Universe has not existed forever, if it did then we wouldn't be able to see more than 13.7 billion light years away"
No - it's been 13.7 billion years since the big bang. No one knows what was before that. There may be higher dimensions ...
Why doesnt any body think god is real
"...he cured my athsma..."
While he let's millions starve to death. I am glad to see god has his priorities sorted out.
Tell me - why has god never cured an amputee?
What would I require to believe in God?
Thank you for your reply, Silverwings.
However, you have failed to provide a way to differentiate an eternal universe from one created by a deity.
I don't believe in evolution just so I can do whatever I like. I believe it because there is a mou...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
"A great dane and a pony resemble each other. They both have a head, four legs, hair, two ears, two eyes, a nose, a neck, a tail, heart, lungs, intestines, a mouth and an anus. And I don’t have to ‘reconstruct’ the parts to get the similarity. That doe...
My family and friends want me to believe.
It hilarious how PZ Myers was expelled from seeing the movie to spite the fact he is IN IT and CREDITED. Even funnier that they left the guy standing next to him (Richard Dawkins!) through without a word - another man IN the movie and CREDITED.
I h...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
"Eventually, all but the die hard ‘evolutionists’ abandoned Darwin’s gradual changing theory for a new and improved one called Punctuated Equilibrium."
PE is a discredited theory. It basically says that evolution happens in fits and starts, so you...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
"Dr. Veith is a highly intellectual man ..."
That may be, but I prefer to do my own thinking, rather than let others do it for me.
I guess Jesus wasn't called the shepherd, and his followers his flock for nothing.
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
"It is pointless trying to talk with you."
Not at all. All you need to do is answer my simple questions. Where is ONE photo of a living dinosaur that you say Mr. Hovind says are everywhere?
"That is not why I am here"
If debating the topics ...
What would I require to believe in God?
Non overlapping magisteria?
While I partly (mostly?) agree with you, I should point out that a creator might have left some indications of creation. These fingerprints certainly fall under the scrutiny of science.
Moreover, in order to establish...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
By the way,
The only names I have called you are deluded and crazy, and I base this opinion on the evidence of your posts.
The remainder of my questions have been aimed your arguments, and I do not believe any of them have been rude or big mouthe...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
"I can see that you are a very humble person who respects other people's beliefs even though they may not be your own...NOT!"
Respect is earnt, not entitled. Provide logical reasons and evidence and I will believe anything.
"I can honestly say t...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
"I believe he has been smeared by those who are against him."
You mean all rational people.
"Dr. Hovind has given lectures all over the US, in many universities, colleges, schools, government meetings and so on"
Yes he has - all spouting the s...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
Excuse me - that is not his web site at all, but a refutation of his theory.
Here is another good refutation:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S5kGp_BoyAU
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
I didn't call you a liar, just deluded and crazy.
Search Youtube for "Hovind Theory" to get it straight from the horses mouth. Here is a sample:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Gve81JHSVDg
Also see the Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
Elone,
Are you honestly suggesting that every endeavour of science (including the ones responsible for the computer your using, the car you drive, the medicine you use, the clothes you wear, the food you eat, the building your in, etc) is all correc...
Can Creationists be "real" scientists?
Kent Hovind is crazy. He actually believes a giant ice meteor came to Earth, broke apart, and landed at the pole. This caused the ice age that wiped out the dinosaurs.
He also believes the atmosphere was at a much higher pressure which would rai...
My family and friends want me to believe.
"there is only on fact at this point that you must know,"
I wasn't the one that raised the idea of two gods battling for our souls, but seeing as though you raised the question - do you have any evidence that there is only one god, or is that just w...
My family and friends want me to believe.
"look mr. english if god isnt real who did we come from"
We have covered this. Where did your god come from?
"Think about everything and how it all fits together, like a puzzle, how it has the ability to recreate itself. How the seasons come and...
My family and friends want me to believe.
"faith is not a virtue patience is and what your telling me is we came from who I am confused"
Learn to punctuate and form coherent questions - I have no idea what you are asking here.
How to get my best friend to talk about something else?
You might want to look at these discussions:
http://www.funadvice.com/q/can_you_prove_god
http://www.funadvice.com/q/god_exists
http://www.funadvice.com/q/my_family_and_friends_want_me_to
My family and friends want me to believe.
Of course her friends and family care, it's just they have not really thought about their beliefs and continue in their delusions. I applaud Chey for actually asking questions regarding her faith and being intellectually honest with the answers.
Co...
My family and friends want me to believe.
Actually, I don;t believe in any god - let alone a false one.
If god created as all with one purpose in mind (to love him), then he failed utterly as there are millions who do not believe in him.
Furthermore, what kind of vanity is required for...
My family and friends want me to believe.(50.00%)
Kayleelovesjoejonas,
Your scare tactics won't work here.
Believing to avid punishment can never to true belief. Would you all knowing god see through your deception and cast you into the eternal flames for breaking one of the 10 commandments?
...
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Elone, It is clear you have no idea what evolutionary theory actually is and why so many people believe it to be true. It is also clear you have never read any books on the subject or looked at the evidence. Your strawman version of evolution ...
"If we humans evolved and were not created, then why did the human race suddenly stop evolving?" We haven't. "Why aren't we continuing to evolve into even species or sub species?" Do you expect to see it happen in single generation? Contrary ...
There you go again, Orion. Threatening me with your all loving god.
Yeah - you keep saying that Orion, but you have yet to provide ANY proof that this is actually the case. So exactly why should *I* have faith in your Jewish zombie?
Which church? which god?
This is a question far too intelligent for IDers.
"Yes god exists. The things around us are the proof of gods existance." No - they are proof those things themselves exist. Since when do they require a creator? Have you actually READ any of the replied here? " wtihout him tere is nothing. " ...
"How do you know Gods fake if you never opened up your heart and gave him a chance to have a relationship with you.?" Meaning: Stop thinking about it and start attributing every good feeling you have as the presence of an invisible magic sky god.
Priceless.
This is encouraging. I am glad you are actually giving the matter serious thought - so many people don't.
He also KNEW billions were destined for hell. What a loving god he is.
"There was once nothing other than God, who always has been and always will be." Sigh. Got any evidence of that, or just a warm fuzzy feeling?
Hey Paul, what makes he bible true?
Beautiful234, Which is it 14 or 15 minutes? I wonder, if the doctors had done nothing at all, would god still have brought him back to life? Strange how these events are attributed to the greatness of god, yet all the terrible ways people die ...
"They came up with this crap because of all of the controversy over the fact that their precious theory violated every physical law they held dear." Firstly, changing your ideas based on the evidence before you is the only rational response. Only t...
"God's real. all men know it they just supress it." Pure conjecture on your part. Or has your god given you telepathic powers? "if there wasnt a god then how could this world and univeres have gotten here." Incredibly weak argument that has p...
Is there any need to tell her? What will it achieve? Still, you can ask the difficult questions if the topic ever comes up. Reason with her over the years. Eventually she may realise that she believes *because* she believes.
I don't believe there is a god. I was pointing out that it is entirely possible for theists to conclude that "god created evolution" so they can have their cake and eat it to. Of course, in the process they completely write off the Genesis story ...
"The shots alone were extremely painful not to mention the surgery! Anyway, he finally asked me if I was doing ok, I said 'sure why'" So you lied to him. Naughty Christian.
Sorry... Let me state one thing then - I do not consider women weaker at all. They may have different skill sets (in general), but that does not equate to weaker in any respect. It seems the central book of Christianity has a *very* different vi...
Actually, according to many studies men have a higher tolerance of pain.
Wow - looks like we really started something here. It is interesting to watch believers squirm and wriggle their way out of the obvious sexism contained in the bible. Basically they say "it's all in the OT, so doesn't matter", or "Jesus came and ch...
Thank you Amoeba. It is difficult to get across concepts to people who seem to lack a basic understanding of chemistry, physics, biology, or maths - let alone something like evolution. Even so, the central concepts of evolution are not that hard to ...
Catholics are just one type of Christian, just as Baptists, Presbyterians, Orthodox, Methodists, Anglican, Lutheran, Brethren, etc
Stephanief987, I guess you haven't actually read your bible? Let's look at a few passages: Lot offers his two daughters for gang rape, rather than letting the mob have their way with his male guests. 2 Pet.2:7-8. 19:8 Rachel considers her...
To spite what the bible says, no. Women are equals in most (all?) Christian nations, which just goes to show you that their morality does not come from their precious, in-errant, book directed by god himself.
I AM GOD. There! Now there are 2 gods :) Seriously - is that a real argument you are putting forward? Does someone have to claim to be a god before they can even be considered one? Does claiming you are a god, prove you are a god? No.
"Well the Universe has not existed forever, if it did then we wouldn't be able to see more than 13.7 billion light years away" No - it's been 13.7 billion years since the big bang. No one knows what was before that. There may be higher dimensions ...
"...he cured my athsma..." While he let's millions starve to death. I am glad to see god has his priorities sorted out. Tell me - why has god never cured an amputee?
Thank you for your reply, Silverwings. However, you have failed to provide a way to differentiate an eternal universe from one created by a deity. I don't believe in evolution just so I can do whatever I like. I believe it because there is a mou...
"A great dane and a pony resemble each other. They both have a head, four legs, hair, two ears, two eyes, a nose, a neck, a tail, heart, lungs, intestines, a mouth and an anus. And I don’t have to ‘reconstruct’ the parts to get the similarity. That doe...
It hilarious how PZ Myers was expelled from seeing the movie to spite the fact he is IN IT and CREDITED. Even funnier that they left the guy standing next to him (Richard Dawkins!) through without a word - another man IN the movie and CREDITED. I h...
"Eventually, all but the die hard ‘evolutionists’ abandoned Darwin’s gradual changing theory for a new and improved one called Punctuated Equilibrium." PE is a discredited theory. It basically says that evolution happens in fits and starts, so you...
"Dr. Veith is a highly intellectual man ..." That may be, but I prefer to do my own thinking, rather than let others do it for me. I guess Jesus wasn't called the shepherd, and his followers his flock for nothing.
"It is pointless trying to talk with you." Not at all. All you need to do is answer my simple questions. Where is ONE photo of a living dinosaur that you say Mr. Hovind says are everywhere? "That is not why I am here" If debating the topics ...
Non overlapping magisteria? While I partly (mostly?) agree with you, I should point out that a creator might have left some indications of creation. These fingerprints certainly fall under the scrutiny of science. Moreover, in order to establish...
By the way, The only names I have called you are deluded and crazy, and I base this opinion on the evidence of your posts. The remainder of my questions have been aimed your arguments, and I do not believe any of them have been rude or big mouthe...
"I can see that you are a very humble person who respects other people's beliefs even though they may not be your own...NOT!" Respect is earnt, not entitled. Provide logical reasons and evidence and I will believe anything. "I can honestly say t...
"I believe he has been smeared by those who are against him." You mean all rational people. "Dr. Hovind has given lectures all over the US, in many universities, colleges, schools, government meetings and so on" Yes he has - all spouting the s...
Excuse me - that is not his web site at all, but a refutation of his theory. Here is another good refutation: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S5kGp_BoyAU
I didn't call you a liar, just deluded and crazy. Search Youtube for "Hovind Theory" to get it straight from the horses mouth. Here is a sample: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Gve81JHSVDg Also see the Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/...
Elone, Are you honestly suggesting that every endeavour of science (including the ones responsible for the computer your using, the car you drive, the medicine you use, the clothes you wear, the food you eat, the building your in, etc) is all correc...
Kent Hovind is crazy. He actually believes a giant ice meteor came to Earth, broke apart, and landed at the pole. This caused the ice age that wiped out the dinosaurs. He also believes the atmosphere was at a much higher pressure which would rai...
"there is only on fact at this point that you must know," I wasn't the one that raised the idea of two gods battling for our souls, but seeing as though you raised the question - do you have any evidence that there is only one god, or is that just w...
"look mr. english if god isnt real who did we come from" We have covered this. Where did your god come from? "Think about everything and how it all fits together, like a puzzle, how it has the ability to recreate itself. How the seasons come and...
"faith is not a virtue patience is and what your telling me is we came from who I am confused" Learn to punctuate and form coherent questions - I have no idea what you are asking here.
You might want to look at these discussions: http://www.funadvice.com/q/can_you_prove_god http://www.funadvice.com/q/god_exists http://www.funadvice.com/q/my_family_and_friends_want_me_to
Of course her friends and family care, it's just they have not really thought about their beliefs and continue in their delusions. I applaud Chey for actually asking questions regarding her faith and being intellectually honest with the answers. Co...
Actually, I don;t believe in any god - let alone a false one. If god created as all with one purpose in mind (to love him), then he failed utterly as there are millions who do not believe in him. Furthermore, what kind of vanity is required for...
Kayleelovesjoejonas, Your scare tactics won't work here. Believing to avid punishment can never to true belief. Would you all knowing god see through your deception and cast you into the eternal flames for breaking one of the 10 commandments? ...